I know, I know. Excuse the clichéd question above. Very 'When Harry Met Sally' (but then this week is the anniversary of Nora Ephron's passing, so allow my indulgence). I, for one, have always answered it as enthusiastically as a cheerleader at the homecoming game, with a resounding 'YES.'
I have some amazing male friends in my life - several of whom I've known since we all still peed our pants (actually one or two of them drunk, still do). They're like brothers - we've gone through the 'you can't play football with us because you are a girl' stage; the 'ok, let's snog each other at house parties while our parents are out as let's face it, we don't know anyone else to snog' stage and the 'how are we friends when you treat your girlfriends so badly' stage and are now in the 'I'd love to open another bottle of Waitrose's pick of the month, but I've gotta call you a cab as the kids get up at 6 am' stage.
My other male friends have come from my days of working in telly - most of whom I met when I was single and a lack of chemistry meant we were only ever mates. One guy was my surrogate boyfriend for about 3 years (he even bought my tampax for me, let me cry on his shoulder at midnight when another boy broke my heart, brought me cookies and treats when I was down). He was SUCH a great friend, that everyone wanted us to get it together.
I tried. With a mixture of vodka and willpower I closed my eyes and let him kiss me. Nothing. Nada. It was like kissing a deal squirrel. So, he accepted that the hand of friendship was all I was offering and all was fine - until he met a girl who HATED me. Off he ran, up the aisle and down the divorce court with her and our friendship didn't survive.
I'm not sure I've ever had a friendship with a boy I actually fancied (since Jeremy Hall rejected me at the tender age of 12, for my much prettier friend Wendy)... Those were the pre-dental work days, when I had yet to discover the joys of make-up and hair bleach.
A quick poll of my work mates, revealed that most of the women have at some stage or another, been friends with a guy who claimed to be totally down with that. Just before aforementioned guy then tried to stick his tongue down the their throat. Inevitably the friendship crumbles. Obviously this happens the other way around - I've known many women who have been hopelessly in love with their best mates only to watch teary eyed as said best mate coupled up.
Is the rule as simple as, you can be friends, as long as neither of you wants to fiddle with the other one? (For want of a better expression?) Or, in even the most platonic of platonic friendships, is sexual attraction still the big elephant in the room? Is there an argument that all male/female heterosexual friendships are based on some for of attraction or another? OR is the very existence of only friendship symbolic of a complete lack of attraction?
The mind boggles. Is it easier to make these friendships, when one of you is already in a relationship? Therefore negating the chance of the new budding friendship being anything other than that? Funnily enough I've not known many friends, who post marriage, have started new friendships with someone of the opposite sex. Which frankly, is odd. Are you never supposed to have another male friend again, after wearing your white frock?
The other day I read an article where 2 buddies (both single) decided to date for 30 days. (What is the difference between hanging out and dating? Or is that another discussion entirely?). Anyway, they were 'committed' to the dating. They knew, inevitably, they'd have to have sex... part of this dating ritual.
They are now a couple.
Turns out, they fancied each other all along, which begs the question, why didn't you just shag to begin with and not have to do some hokey experiment to justify it? Maybe that is proof, that in between every great male/female friendship lies someone who has a secret crush and is probably masturbating regularly thinking about their 'best chum.'
I want to believe in Ephron's film, that Sally was in fact right, men and women CAN be friends - and Harry was horribly wrong, and also, a sex pest.
I have some amazing male friends in my life - several of whom I've known since we all still peed our pants (actually one or two of them drunk, still do). They're like brothers - we've gone through the 'you can't play football with us because you are a girl' stage; the 'ok, let's snog each other at house parties while our parents are out as let's face it, we don't know anyone else to snog' stage and the 'how are we friends when you treat your girlfriends so badly' stage and are now in the 'I'd love to open another bottle of Waitrose's pick of the month, but I've gotta call you a cab as the kids get up at 6 am' stage.
My other male friends have come from my days of working in telly - most of whom I met when I was single and a lack of chemistry meant we were only ever mates. One guy was my surrogate boyfriend for about 3 years (he even bought my tampax for me, let me cry on his shoulder at midnight when another boy broke my heart, brought me cookies and treats when I was down). He was SUCH a great friend, that everyone wanted us to get it together.
I tried. With a mixture of vodka and willpower I closed my eyes and let him kiss me. Nothing. Nada. It was like kissing a deal squirrel. So, he accepted that the hand of friendship was all I was offering and all was fine - until he met a girl who HATED me. Off he ran, up the aisle and down the divorce court with her and our friendship didn't survive.
I'm not sure I've ever had a friendship with a boy I actually fancied (since Jeremy Hall rejected me at the tender age of 12, for my much prettier friend Wendy)... Those were the pre-dental work days, when I had yet to discover the joys of make-up and hair bleach.
A quick poll of my work mates, revealed that most of the women have at some stage or another, been friends with a guy who claimed to be totally down with that. Just before aforementioned guy then tried to stick his tongue down the their throat. Inevitably the friendship crumbles. Obviously this happens the other way around - I've known many women who have been hopelessly in love with their best mates only to watch teary eyed as said best mate coupled up.
Is the rule as simple as, you can be friends, as long as neither of you wants to fiddle with the other one? (For want of a better expression?) Or, in even the most platonic of platonic friendships, is sexual attraction still the big elephant in the room? Is there an argument that all male/female heterosexual friendships are based on some for of attraction or another? OR is the very existence of only friendship symbolic of a complete lack of attraction?
The mind boggles. Is it easier to make these friendships, when one of you is already in a relationship? Therefore negating the chance of the new budding friendship being anything other than that? Funnily enough I've not known many friends, who post marriage, have started new friendships with someone of the opposite sex. Which frankly, is odd. Are you never supposed to have another male friend again, after wearing your white frock?
The other day I read an article where 2 buddies (both single) decided to date for 30 days. (What is the difference between hanging out and dating? Or is that another discussion entirely?). Anyway, they were 'committed' to the dating. They knew, inevitably, they'd have to have sex... part of this dating ritual.
They are now a couple.
Turns out, they fancied each other all along, which begs the question, why didn't you just shag to begin with and not have to do some hokey experiment to justify it? Maybe that is proof, that in between every great male/female friendship lies someone who has a secret crush and is probably masturbating regularly thinking about their 'best chum.'
I want to believe in Ephron's film, that Sally was in fact right, men and women CAN be friends - and Harry was horribly wrong, and also, a sex pest.